По другим источникам, ученые не называют это сосудистым заболеванием, а говорят, что вирус поражает сосуды и органы, включая сердце. Они все еще не знают почему у некоторых людей такая реакция негативная на эту дрянь и неизвестно когда узнают. Поэтому надо предохраняться от этой заразы, пока не станет ясно что это такое.
https://www.breakthroughs.com/your-health/understanding-covid-19-vascular-disease
As the list of unusual symptoms linked to COVID-19 continues to expand, scientists have mounting evidence that COVID-19 disease is more than a respiratory illness that primarily affects the lungs. In many patients, the virus also attacks the vascular system, the some 60,000 miles worth of blood vessels—arteries, veins and capillaries—that run throughout our body.

Китайцы возможно знают, но скрывают от мира.

Про то, что это сосудистое заболевание, то догадывались и раньше, но было мало испытаний на эту тему, а вот последние исследования уже больше это доказывают..
Вот статья за сентябрь 2020

Several recent studies have supported the growing hypothesis that coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) is primarily a cardiovascular, and not a pulmonary virus. The narrative that those affected are usually asymptomatic and have very mild or no disease may be false. Many of those who are asymptomatic may actually fall victim to myocarditis, a sinister, stealth-like disease, whose resulting disability may take decades to manifest.

Concerns for cardiovascular involvement of SARS-CoV-2 have been present since the early genesis of the pandemic. A research paper from China found that 20% of COVID-19 hospitalized patients developed heart disease and thromboembolic events happened in 31% of those in the ICU. Another from Germany reported ongoing myocardial inflammation in 60% of 100 recently recovered patients with COVID-19.

However, cardiovascular disease has been assumed by many to be a manifestation of severe COVID-19; and not from direct infection of the virus but instead from small vessel disease caused by the hypercoagulation of the blood.

https://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/view/is-covid-19-primarily-a-heart-and-vascular-diseases?fbclid=IwAR0EuJAJ_ffggE5Juc610wKx_bOTojz7xmtOpYjUMNnJ1CggUcROdAgtrCs

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В Индии большинство населения живут без вентиляторов как и 200 лет назад

Вчера проскочила инфо интересная, что у тех, у кого сезонная прививка от гриппа и от пневмонии , тем ковид труднее подцепить.

А у меня и та и та , может поэтому и проносит пока. Не знаю насколько правда, данных не приводилось просто док сказал.

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С короновирусом будем жить долго , увы :(
Reaching ‘Herd Immunity’ Is Unlikely in the U.S., Experts Now Believe

Once the novel coronavirus began to spread across the globe in early 2020, it became increasingly clear that the only way out of the pandemic would be for so many people to gain immunity — whether through natural infection or vaccination — that the virus would run out of people to infect. The concept of reaching herd immunity became the implicit goal in many countries, including the United States.
Early on, the target herd immunity threshold was estimated to be about 60% to 70% of the population. Most experts, including Fauci, expected that the United States would be able to reach it once vaccines were available.

But as vaccines were developed and distribution ramped up through the winter and into the spring, estimates of the threshold began to rise. That is because the initial calculations were based on the contagiousness of the original version of the virus. The predominant variant now circulating in the United States, called B.1.1.7 and first identified in Britain, is about 60% more transmissible.

Disease transmission is local,” Lipsitch noted.
“If the coverage is 95% in the United States as a whole, but 70% in some small town, the virus doesn’t care,” he explained. “It will make its way around the small town.”
How insulated a particular region is from the virus depends on a dizzying array of factors.
Herd immunity can fluctuate with “population crowding, human behavior, sanitation and all sorts of other things,” said Dr. David M. Morens, a virus expert and senior adviser to Fauci. “The herd immunity for a wealthy neighborhood might be X, then you go into a crowded neighborhood one block away and it’s 10X.”
Given the degree of movement among regions, a small virus wave in a region with a low vaccination level can easily spill over into an area where a majority of the population is protected.
At the same time, the connectivity between countries, particularly as travel restrictions ease, emphasizes the urgency of protecting not just Americans but everyone in the world, said Natalie E. Dean, a biostatistician at the University of Florida in Gainesville. Any variants that arise in the world will eventually reach the United States, she noted.
Many parts of the world lag far behind the United States on vaccinations. Less than 2% of the people in India have been fully vaccinated, for example, and less than 1% in South Africa, according to data compiled by The New York Times.
“We will not achieve herd immunity as a country or a state or even as a city until we have enough immunity in the population as a whole,” said Lauren Ancel Meyers, the director of the COVID-19 Modeling Consortium at the University of Texas at Austin.

As a result, experts now calculate the herd immunity threshold to be at least 80%. If even more contagious variants develop, or if scientists find that immunized people can still transmit the virus, the calculation will have to be revised upward again.

Polls show that about 30% of the U.S. population is still reluctant to be vaccinated. That number is expected to improve but probably not enough. “It is theoretically possible that we could get to about 90% vaccination coverage, but not super likely, I would say,” said Marc Lipsitch, a public health researcher at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health.
Although resistance to the vaccines is a main reason the United States is unlikely to reach herd immunity, it is not the only one.
Herd immunity is often described as a national target. But that is a hazy concept in a country this large.

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Cont.
“Disease transmission is local,” Lipsitch noted.
“If the coverage is 95% in the United States as a whole, but 70% in some small town, the virus doesn’t care,” he explained. “It will make its way around the small town.”
How insulated a particular region is from the virus depends on a dizzying array of factors.
Herd immunity can fluctuate with “population crowding, human behavior, sanitation and all sorts of other things,” said Dr. David M. Morens, a virus expert and senior adviser to Fauci. “The herd immunity for a wealthy neighborhood might be X, then you go into a crowded neighborhood one block away and it’s 10X.”

Given the degree of movement among regions, a small virus wave in a region with a low vaccination level can easily spill over into an area where a majority of the population is protected.
At the same time, the connectivity between countries, particularly as travel restrictions ease, emphasizes the urgency of protecting not just Americans but everyone in the world, said Natalie E. Dean, a biostatistician at the University of Florida in Gainesville. Any variants that arise in the world will eventually reach the United States, she noted.

Many parts of the world lag far behind the United States on vaccinations. Less than 2% of the people in India have been fully vaccinated, for example, and less than 1% in South Africa, according to data compiled by The New York Times.
“We will not achieve herd immunity as a country or a state or even as a city until we have enough immunity in the population as a whole,” said Lauren Ancel Meyers, the director of the COVID-19 Modeling Consortium at the University of Texas at Austin.

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Cont.
What the Future May Hold
If the herd immunity threshold is not attainable, what matters most is the rate of hospitalizations and deaths after pandemic restrictions are relaxed, experts believe.
By focusing on vaccinating the most vulnerable, the United States has already brought those numbers down sharply. If the vaccination levels of that group continue to rise, the expectation is that over time the coronavirus may become seasonal, like the flu, and affect mostly the young and healthy.
“What we want to do at the very least is get to a point where we have just really sporadic little flare-ups,” said Carl Bergstrom, an evolutionary biologist at the University of Washington in Seattle. “That would be a very sensible target in this country where we have an excellent vaccine and the ability to deliver it.”
Over the long term — a generation or two — the goal is to transition the new coronavirus to become more like its cousins that cause common colds. That would mean the first infection is early in childhood, and subsequent infections are mild because of partial protection, even if immunity wanes.
Some unknown proportion of people with mild cases may go on to experience debilitating symptoms for weeks or months — a syndrome called “long COVID” — but they are unlikely to overwhelm the health care system.
“The vast majority of the mortality and of the stress on the health care system comes from people with a few particular conditions, and especially people who are over 60,” Lipsitch said. “If we can protect those people against severe illness and death, then we will have turned COVID from a society disrupter to a regular infectious disease.”
If communities maintain vigilant testing and tracking, it may be possible to bring the number of new cases so low that officials can identify any new introduction of the virus and stifle a potential outbreak, said Bary Pradelski, an economist at the National Center for Scientific Research in Grenoble, France. He and his colleagues described this strategy in a paper published this past Thursday in the scientific journal The Lancet.
“Eradication is, I think, impossible at this stage,” Pradelski said. “But you want local elimination.”

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Cont
Early in the pandemic, when vaccines for the coronavirus were still just a glimmer on the horizon, the term “herd immunity” came to signify the endgame: the point when enough Americans would be protected from the virus so we could be rid of the pathogen and reclaim our lives.
Now, more than half of adults in the United States have been inoculated with at least one dose of a vaccine. But daily vaccination rates are slipping, and there is widespread consensus among scientists and public health experts that the herd immunity threshold is not attainable — at least not in the foreseeable future, and perhaps not ever.

Instead, they are coming to the conclusion that rather than making a long-promised exit, the virus will most likely become a manageable threat that will continue to circulate in the United States for years to come, still causing hospitalizations and deaths but in much smaller numbers.
How much smaller is uncertain and depends in part on how much of the nation, and the world, becomes vaccinated and how the coronavirus evolves. It is already clear, however, that the virus is changing too quickly, new variants are spreading too easily and vaccination is proceeding too slowly for herd immunity to be within reach anytime soon...

Continued immunizations, especially for people at highest risk because of age, exposure or health status, will be crucial to limiting the severity of outbreaks, if not their frequency, experts believe.
“The virus is unlikely to go away,” said Rustom Antia, an evolutionary biologist at Emory University in Atlanta. “But we want to do all we can to check that it’s likely to become a mild infection.”

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Из всего, что я поняла хорошо, , это затянется на долгие годы, и так , как было раньше, вряд ли будет , по крайней мере для моего поколения...
« If we can protect who are over 60
against severe illness and death, then we will have turned COVID from a society disrupter to a regular infectious disease...
Over time, if not enough people are protected, highly contagious variants may develop that can break through vaccine protection, land people in the hospital and put them at risk of death.
“That’s the nightmare scenario,” said Jeffrey Shaman, a public health researcher at Columbia University.
How frequent and severe those breakthrough infections are may determine whether the United States can keep hospitalizations and deaths low or if the country will find itself in a “mad scramble” every couple of years...»

https://www.wionews.com/world/reaching-herd-immunity-is-unlikely-in-the-us-experts-now-believe-382589

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My husband still remembers polio vaccines in the 60s. It was a community affair. Parents, kids, everyone turned out at the firehouse or wherever to get the vaccines, no whining or complaining about 'freedom' or wacky conspiracies-it was a civic duty. In today's selfish America, we are more at risk because people won't act for the common good :(

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Does he remember how long it took to create and fully test this vaccine?

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A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.
Edward Abbey

Водку? Водку буду!

Праздник сатанистов удался, здесь вам и Джей Ло у которой большая Жо и горемычный принц оставивший свою беременную Меган дома, вся "элита" пришла убедить сомневающихся что надо уколоться, с чего бы это?

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Попробуйте лечить СПИД грязевыми ваннами. Помочь не поможет, но к земле привыкните.

Predictive programming

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Попробуйте лечить СПИД грязевыми ваннами. Помочь не поможет, но к земле привыкните.

you are so full of sh##.. all new vaccines are “experimental”

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We’re reaching herd stupidity real fast though!!

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