Как вы думаете, если позвонить по hotline этого государственного сайта, то конфиденциальность точно будет соблюдена?

http://www.womenshealth.gov/violence-ag ... abuse.html

Да!!!!! Звоните!!!!!!

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You begin by always expecting good things to happen.
Tom Hopkins

Но это эмоциональный абьюз (я так считаю), как я его докажу?

Звоните и об'ясняйте ситуацию. Вам подскажут, что Вы можете сделать. Вам не надо ничего доказывать. Это не полиция, а служба помощи тем, кто запутался и кому нужна поддержка.

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Единственным истинным признаком успеха является возможность заниматься в жизни тем, что приносит тебе счастье

Девочка-скаут, я вам подробно написала что нужно делать, я знаю о чем пишу, но такое ощущение создается что вы приходите просто вопрос очередной задать, тот на который уже ответ дан, кстати.

Герл скаут, у Вас есть друзья-подруги тут? Есть кто-то , с кем Вы можете выйти из дома и пообщаться? Вас ещё вдобавок ко всему угнетает нахождение в 4х стенах. Может кто-то с форума недалеко есть? И вообще хорошо бы, чтобы у кого-то Ваши контакты были на всякий случай.

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Единственным истинным признаком успеха является возможность заниматься в жизни тем, что приносит тебе счастье

вам ничего доказывать не надо, если это хотлайн, то вам верят на слово

ГелСкаут, вы позвонили?

Остаётся догадываться "нет" или "собираюсь"
Иначе отписалась бы.

Не совсем по теме но хотела поделиться

Живое видео мамаши и дочери подростка
Забыли , с их слов, младенца в горячей машине
На видео им сообщают что случилось у машины
У обоих истерика

Ребенок перегрелся но жив и здоров Слава богу

http://www.popsugar.com/moms/Mother-Rea ... r-38028951

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A Real woman can do it all by herself..... but a Real man wouldn't let her

A WOMAN UNDER CUSTODIAL SIEGE: HOW CAN SHE PROTECT HERSELF?
PERSONAL PROTECTION AND EDUCATION

https://abatteredmother.wordpress.com/2 ... t-herself/

Most of what she needs to do she should do regardless of whether or not a divorce is on the horizon. Much of this advice is economic practicality and financial independence. Both of these are taught to women as not being sufficiently feminine. What is considered acceptably feminine succeeds in keeping women psychologically infantile.

The first thing she must do is pay off as many of her debts as possible. If there is major work to be done on her car, she should try to get it done immediately, preferably in cash to keep her credit rate low. Seek credit limit increases on any credit cards in case of emergencies. If she does not have a credit history, she should establish one. She should never, ever use a credit card that is in her partner’s name only because she may be held responsible for half of that debt, even if she used the card only once. If she and her partner have joint credit accounts, she should remove her name and open a separate account in her name only. This will prevent her from being held responsible for future debts he may incur. One way women have been disadvantaged in court, often by the suggestion of their exs’ lawyers, is to hold them responsible for half or more of a debt acquired by the partner through his excessive use of credit. This is common in cases of alcohol and drug abuse or gambling addictions in which monstrously high amounts of cash advances are acquired through the use of one or more credit cards. A woman has not only a right but a responsibility to be aware of all account balances held by herself and her husband. She should also call the IRS and request copies of past tax returns. She needs to know the value of all assets and investments such as automobiles, collectibles, treasury notes, pensions, 401K’s, and stock options acquired during the marriage. She should be knowledgeable of the values of all insurances, including life and auto. She needs to have on paper the amount of equity in the marital home, as well as any second mortgages acquired. One particularly nasty wake-up call for many divorcing women is learning that the marital home they had considered a financial asset has been deemed worthless by the existence of several home equity loans acquired without their knowledge by their partners. These loans are often acquired in order to pay off credit debt.

If she doesn’t have a checking and savings account in her name only, she should get one even if she has no plans to divorce. She needs to save a minimum $5,000 in order to pay the retainer for a lawyer should it come to that. If the divorce involves a custody case, the final payment may be as high as $15,000, or even higher. Depending upon the nature of the custody dispute, such cases have been known to cost in the neighborhood of six figures. In most cases in the Chesapeake region, half of the money in joint savings and checking accounts legally belongs to her. If she actually does leave, she should withdraw her half before her husband cleans out and cancels all the accounts. She may qualify for reduced fee or pro-bono representation. Representation by legal council in custody cases is crucial.

If she is being physically, psychologically, emotionally, financially or sexually abused, she should contact her local domestic violence and/or sexual assault center. If addictions are involved, Alcoholics Anonymous, Al-anon, Narcotics- Anonymous and Co-dependents Anonymous may be located in the Yellow Pages. All of these resources are available at low cost or free to the public.[i][/i]

Ну так герл скаут тролль была? Тишина, испарилась дева...

не она не троль, реальный человек.

How to Protect Yourself and Your Children from Medical Kidnapping

Medical family doctor and patients. Isolated white background.
by John P. Thomas


Are you a parent who believes that you have the right to make decisions for your children regarding the medical care they receive? Are you a parent who believes that you have a responsibility to control what your children eat? Are you a parent who believes that you should be able to determine how your children should be educated and what they are taught? If you are such a parent, then beware, your freedom to raise your children and make decisions for them may be threatened by Child Protective Services in the state where you live. The security of your home and family could be destroyed by those who do not support your rights as a parent to raise your children according to the values that you cherish.


Thousands of children are being removed from families by Child Protective Services (CPS), put into foster care homes, used for drug testing, and put up for adoption. This is happening in broad daylight – often without parental consent or proof of parental wrongdoing.

This article will help you protect your family from unwanted intrusion by those who think they know more about parenting your children than you do. To protect your family, it is necessary that you make wise decisions about the healthcare providers that you choose. The wrong choice of a physician can lead to dreadful consequences for every member of your family, because there is a legal connection between your physician and Child Protective Services.

The U.S. “Healthcare” System Operates like a Medical Franchise

We are now living in the era of franchises and chain stores. Most every shopping mall in America has a similar set of stores. Every medium size city has the same set of big box stores. Every medium size town has the same set of fast food restaurants. Even small towns of just a few thousand people will have one or more nationally known brand stores and restaurants.

Some people really appreciate the uniformity. They enjoy the fact that no matter where they travel in the US, they can get the same coffee, doughnuts, burgers, clothing, and, yes, even medical services. However, this uniformity can have serious consequences when it comes to the health of our families.

Physicians in the United States are trained in medical schools, which all have a very similar set of courses. They all learn the same principles of diagnosis and how to use the same set of allopathic drugs that are sold by giant pharmaceutical companies. In fact, a major part of conventional medical training consists of instruction in how to use pharmaceutical drugs and vaccines.

After attending medical school, doctors may choose to receive further medical training and become specialists in certain areas such as cancer, heart disease, and psychiatry. This additional training includes further training in the use of pharmaceutical drugs, imaging technology, surgery, and therapies such as radiation.

Medical education is designed to indoctrinate physicians into a certain way of viewing health and illness, and to emphasize the use of pharmaceutical drugs as the primary method of treating illness. Some drugs are often extremely expensive and have many unwanted side effects.

The U.S. Medical Franchise System is called “Conventional Medicine”

Kaiser Permanente medical care franchise photo.
Kaiser Permanente operates in eight states and the District of Columbia, and is the largest managed medical care organization in the United States.

The beginning point for the medical franchise system in America is the local physician’s office. These are often called health centers or primary care facilities. Primary care offices commonly consist of several physicians, a few nurses, a blood drawing unit, and sometimes nurse practitioners or physician assistants. It is the job of the physicians who work in these clinics to diagnose common illness, prescribe pharmaceutical drugs, and to follow the standards of care that have been established by drug companies, insurance companies, and the US Centers for Disease Control. Primary care physicians are also responsible for determining when a patient needs more specialized care, and making referrals to other more highly trained physicians. Other staff persons in these offices work to insure that patients follow the exact instructions of the doctor.

Medical specialists, such as those who treat cancer, heart disease, diabetes, and mental illness are the connecting point between your physician, and local hospitals and regional medical centers. Specialists work with regional medical centers, where highly sophisticated diagnostic equipment is located and where highly specialized treatments and surgeries are performed.

The franchise system of conventional medicine exists throughout America. It does not have a brand name such as McDonalds, Dunkin Donuts, Walmart, Home Depot, Foot Locker, Banana Republic, Gap, Rite Aid, etc., but the healthcare that people receive in tens of thousands of locations is nearly identical. It may not technically be a franchise, but it functions like one.

Physicians Work Together with Child Protective Services to Abduct Children

The primary care system is closely linked to state offices of Child Protective Services. Physicians are required by law to report anything that might be a sign of child abuse. If you are a parent with a child under the age of 18, then you and your children are being watched for any tell-tale indications of neglect or abuse every time you go to the doctor.

For example, if physicians or nurses notice that your child has unusual bruises, broken bones, burns, etc., then they are required by law to contact the local office of Child Protective Services if they suspect abuse. (The exact name of this office will vary from state to state, but every state has such an office.)

Allegations of Newly Defined “Child Abuse” are Catching Parents Unaware

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Isaiah Rider was medically kidnapped by a Chicago Hospital when his mother, a nurse, disagreed with doctors and was charged with “medical abuse.” More info on Isaiah Rider.. Image source, fox4kc.com

The CPS system has redefined the definition of child abuse. They have made it very broad. The result is that allegations of child abuse are being filed in situations that parents would never have expected.

If parents disagree with a physician’s diagnosis of their child’s illness or disagree with the recommended course of treatment, and choose to seek a second medical opinion, or simply prefer to not follow the doctor’s recommendation, then they could be reported to CPS for investigation of child neglect and abuse.

In any of the preceding situations, in which parents don’t fully and perfectly submit to the instructions of the franchise physicians who provide conventional medical care, the physicians could pull the trigger and start a CPS investigation. Such investigations often result in the removal of children from their home, and placement in foster care.

Hundreds of Thousands of Children are Kidnapped and in CPS Control

Throughout America, thousands of children are under the control of the CPS system. “On any given day, there are approximately 402,000 children in foster care in the United States. In 2013, over 640,000 children spent time in U.S. foster care.” [1]

It is true that some of these children have been neglected, abused, or abandoned. However, in many cases parents have done nothing wrong. Their only charge was exercising normal parental authority over their children and making normal judgements about the kind of healthcare services that shall be provided for their children.

Often, false charges are generated, children are put into foster care, CPS investigations undertaken, parental rights are stripped away, and children are put up for adoption, even when there is no proof of neglect, abuse, or abandonment. False information is put into CPS records and parents are unable to convince CPS and family court judges that they are fit parents when there is absolutely no evidence of wrongdoing. Their only objectionable action may have been to disagree with their doctor regarding the care of their children. Even in situations where parents are able to finally get their children back home, with no official charges filed against them, their names remain in “child abuse” directories preventing them from seeking employment. They often lose their employment when a CPS investigation begins and they lose their children, because many parents have related to Health Impact News that fighting CPS is a “full time job.”

We have been Taught to Obey Doctors

In many cases, in which children have been removed from their family of origin and put into foster care, the only reason for such action was a disagreement between parents and physicians. It can be a dangerous step to openly object to the therapies recommended by physicians. It can be a dangerous step for parents to tell a physician that they will be seeking a second opinion for their children or will be seeking alternative treatment options. Such steps will be viewed unfavorably by some physicians and can result in the doctor contacting CPS to “protect” your children from you and your decisions.

CPS Intervention may Lead to Medical Kidnapping

When parents and physicians disagree, and CPS is contacted, then CPS can take your children from your home and terminate your parental authority over your children. We call this type of intervention “medical kidnapping.” CPS workers take children from their homes, often with the participation of police officers, and put them into foster care. This is often done without a court order, which is why it is called “kidnapping.”

Photo taken from TV footage of the SWAT team sent to the home of Maryanne Godboldo
Photo taken from TV footage of the SWAT team sent to the homeschool mother of Maryanne Godboldo, who did not want her daughter to continue taking psych drugs. More info.

We have seen situations where police SWAT teams break into homes and remove children at gunpoint. Parents may be subdued with Tasers and thrown to the floor while children witness the entire event. Such traumatic events, and the foster home placements that follow, can result in deep emotional wounds for children. Additionally, foster home placement can result in physical and emotional abuse.

Are You Acting Like a “Normal” Parent?

We are heading down a troublesome path. State officials are determining what should be the definition of normal behavior for parents. They are insisting that parents should all think, behave, and raise their children in the same ways.

This is the pattern in America today. We are all being encouraged to shop in the same stores, to participate in the same kind of healthcare system, to educate our children in the same ways, to get our news from the same sources, to believe in a certain form of evolution, to avoid making honest comments about the behavior of other people, and to yield our authority to make decisions for our children to the state.

For people who still value personal freedom to make decisions for themselves and their children, there is an ever-increasing possibility for conflict with the state in many areas.

Some Physicians Value Health Freedom and Parental Choice


Regardless of what you see or read in the mainstream media, doctors are not unified on issues like mandatory vaccines.

There are some physicians who do not practice franchise medicine. They value health freedom and parental rights. These physicians march to a different drumbeat.

They may have been trained in the conventional medical system. However, they never stopped their studies, and have come to realize that there is much more to providing healthcare than the prescribing of drugs.

They realize the complex nature of human health and illness, and are willing to look at lifestyle, nutritional deficiencies, dietary excesses, environmental toxins, emotional functioning, history of trauma, addictions, relationship with God, and other factors when diagnosing and treating illness.

Parents who desire healthcare that is not centered on the use of pharmaceutical drugs, and who are not happy with the never-ending stream of recommended vaccinations, will eventually come into conflict with franchise-oriented physicians. The conflict will be with conventional physicians who insist that proper medical care can only follow one path, which is the path that they recommend. Parents who disagree with this single-path, one-size-fits-all, healthcare treatment system are advised to carefully consider what might happen to their families if intense disagreements arise with physicians over the treatment of their children.

How can Parents Avoid Unwanted Entanglements with Physicians and CPS?

To avoid conflicts with the conventional medical system and the CPS system, and having your children seized or forced to receive medical treatments that you do not support, it may be necessary to change your attitudes and to do some advance healthcare planning.

The first step is an attitudinal adjustment. We must learn that every person who wears a white coat is not necessarily our friend. We should not assume that we can safely share everything we think and believe with physicians and those who work with physicians. We would never walk up to a stranger on the street and begin telling the stranger the most intimate details of our lives.

In the same way, we should not step into a physician’s examination room and feel free to divulge everything to a person we may have never seen before. We have been conditioned to believe that we should hold nothing back when visiting a doctor, but this strategy has become very dangerous if you are participating in franchise medicine.

Developing a relationship with a physician is a process of building trust. You need to be sure that your physician is someone who will work with you on your terms according to your preferences, and not be someone who will seek to force you to submit to his or her preferences regarding healthcare.

You are looking for a doctor who will listen to you and will provide you with advice and counsel concerning your healthcare options. This is a person who will support you in your decisions even when they are different than recommendations of the majority of conventionally practicing physicians. You need to look for a doctor who will work with you and not against you when it comes to treating your children.

Conflicts between Parents Can be Disastrous if CPS is Involved

Before you begin interviewing doctors about their beliefs and practices, it will be important to make sure that you and your spouse are on the same page concerning health care preferences. It is not uncommon for one parent (usually the mother) to advocate for avoiding vaccinations and for using natural alternatives to pharmaceuticals, while the father might be advocating for the use of pharmaceutical drugs. You don’t want to put your children’s healthcare in the middle of a marital dispute.

I don’t even want to say this, but it does happen from time to time when one parent will threaten to file a complaint with CPS if the other parent doesn’t cooperate with the use of vaccines and pharmaceuticals. Such an approach will not result in CPS helping. Rather they might just take the children from both you and your spouse. Do not assume that CPS workers will be your friends and advocate for you. Try to work out your differences with your spouse beforehand, and agree to never involve CPS in your disputes.

How Do You Find a Physician You can Trust?

To find a physician who will keep your rights to healthcare freedom in mind at all times, you will need to interview potential physicians. This means taking the time to meet with the physician before you and your children become official patients. Some physicians will offer a short no charge courtesy visit to meet them. You can use this opportunity to your advantage to learn about what the physician believes about the practice of medicine and your rights to make decisions for your children. If you ask the right questions, then you can quickly determine whether the doctor is practicing franchise medicine.

Don’t be shy. A doctor might wear a white coat, but he or she is just another person. Don’t be intimidated by the coat or the degrees that hang on the wall. Go ahead and ask direct questions.

If you don’t believe in vaccinations, for example, or you believe in only selective vaccinations, then ask the physician about this. Don’t spend a lot of time explaining what you believe and why you believe it. Just get down to the facts. Your goal is to assess what the physician believes, so that you can determine if there will be a good fit if you decide to work together. Do not try to change the mind of the physician!

Who Can We Believe? Who can We Trust?

The goal is to help you avoid conflict with those who would compel you to participate in the franchise medical system if you don’t want to subject your children to conventional medical care.

A wise person holds his cards close to his chest. A wise person does not take unnecessary risk by potentially putting his or her children in the hands of healthcare providers unless the parent knows that the healthcare provider will be supportive of parental wishes.

A gentle person does his or her homework in advance of illness and has a strategy in place for taking care of children when they become ill. A gentle person acts like a dove by protecting children and doing everything possible to avoid their becoming involved with the medical or CPS system.

You can’t assume that other people have the same beliefs as you when it comes to healthcare, pharmaceutical drugs, vaccinations, or diet. This applies to your spouse, your doctor, your extended family, and your friends.

This especially applies to CPS. If you have any desire to turn away from the standard medical care system, the Standard American Diet, or the public education system, then do not expect any positive involvement from CPS. If they get involved in your life, then your children will be forced to receive standard medical care with the 69 suggested doses of vaccines. They will be forced to eat the highly processed low fat, high sugar Standard American Diet. They will be forced to attend public school, and if they have any type of behavior or learning problem, then they will be forced to take multiple pharmaceutical drugs.

How do you Find a Supportive Physician?




Nice doctors are just as likely as aloof, arrogant, and insulting doctors to turn you into CPS if you don’t follow their instructions and try to back them into a corner. Remember, physicians are bound by law to report you to CPS if they believe that your unwillingness to cooperate with franchise medicine is threatening the health of your children.

What you need to find is a doctor who will be supportive of what you believe. There are such doctors, but they may not always be easy to find. You can waste a lot of time by randomly reaching out and interviewing physicians in your local community. There are several ways to find a physician you can trust for your family.

If you are part of a home schooling community, then ask for recommendations for physicians from other parents who share your beliefs and who are supportive of the lifestyle that you are providing for your children.

If you don’t have such contacts, then you may wish to use the resources shown at the end of this article to search for a physician.

In some cases, depending on your state, you might feel more comfortable working directly with a nurse practitioner or physician’s assistant for routine minor childhood illnesses such as colds and fevers if these practitioners are less connected to the conventional medical franchise.

Some parents try to minimize contact with physicians if they are unable to find one who is not fully wedded to the practice of conventional medicine. To do this, you need to step away from certain beliefs that you may hold. There is no rule that says that you have to take your children to the doctor for an annual physical or well-baby visit. Parents are much more likely to know when their children are doing fine than are healthcare providers who rarely see the child. Trust your parental instincts.

It is good to have a relationship with a trusted physician if a serious illness develops, but you are not obligated to visit that person on any specific schedule unless you want to utilize their expertise. You are in charge of when you take your children for healthcare services. It is your decision. You don’t have to say yes, when the receptionist asks to schedule your next appointment. You can reply by saying, “I will contact you when I know my schedule.”

List of Resources for finding Physicians and other Healthcare Providers

There are several referral lists where you can search for physicians who have deepened their study of medicine to include various cutting edge non-pharmaceutical therapies. These physicians have joined together to form associations where they can teach one another what they have learned about alternatives to conventional franchise medical treatments.

These lists would be a good beginning point for your research. I can’t make any promises about the suitability of any particular physician to meet your needs, but the fact that they are part of these organizations is a good indication that they have learned to think outside of the box of conventional medicine, and might be respectful of others who are taking responsibility for finding the kind of healthcare they believe will be best for their children.

There are also many highly qualified healthcare providers who do not have M.D. or D.O. degrees. Many are highly trained healthcare professionals who are qualified to take care of you and your children. This resource list also contains links to some of these non-physician healthcare providers. Please be aware that some of the best options for your family healthcare may not be covered by insurance, if they are not part of the medical franchise. You will need to weigh the cost risk/benefits very carefully.

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