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Заголовок сообщения: Re: Все в gym - 2001-2 Добавлено: 04 июн 2011, 02:08 |
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Зарегистрирован: 11 сен 2005, 06:53 Сообщения: 10898
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спасибо!
_________________ What a lovely day yeah we won the war May have lost a million men but we got a million more All the people they say
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Ami
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Заголовок сообщения: Re: Все в gym - 2001-2 Добавлено: 04 июн 2011, 08:18 |
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Богиня Мудрости |
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Зарегистрирован: 12 янв 2007, 19:06 Сообщения: 15795
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Тычинка писал(а): ох ленинград а что по телекусмотрите? я тут подумала: если б порнуху показывали то народ б чаще ходил  но им видимо не выгодно.. а так скучно что-то..у нас там какие-то танцы, дома, и стрелялки.. и спорт ну у нас 20 каналов.. п.с. мне везет обычно-старые эпизоды Кекса в городе показывают или криминальные шоу(док-ны типа голд кейс файл) ))))) А по большим телекам в джиме-фигня спорт спорт спорт ))))))и там канал не переключишь ))))) 
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Ami
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Заголовок сообщения: Re: Все в gym - 2001-2 Добавлено: 04 июн 2011, 08:25 |
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Богиня Мудрости |
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Зарегистрирован: 12 янв 2007, 19:06 Сообщения: 15795
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маме тут фотала недавно-типа наш джим хотела показать ) размыто, бегу на элиптикале.
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nipp
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Заголовок сообщения: Re: Все в gym - 2001-2 Добавлено: 04 июн 2011, 10:38 |
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Богиня Мудрости |
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Зарегистрирован: 05 июл 2010, 17:53 Сообщения: 1121 Откуда: DC
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О джимчеги! Вот из наших: Это тётя Катя с её руками. Вложение:
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Это мущщины прыгают по ящикам. 20 дюймов. Не интересно. Вложение:
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Это общий вид коробки. Вложение:
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А это как правильно делается оппетитная попа. Вложение:
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Последний раз редактировалось nipp 04 июн 2011, 14:35, всего редактировалось 1 раз.
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Denise_
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Заголовок сообщения: Re: Все в gym - 2001-2 Добавлено: 04 июн 2011, 11:44 |
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доела бутерброд с сыром  сижу и завидую всем. Как заставить себя ходить в джим? У меня это получается с переменным успехом 2 года назад бросила курить, накушала себе на талию и на живот, как дать себе пинка? Санничка, какая ты умница! 
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nipp
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Заголовок сообщения: Re: Все в gym - 2001-2 Добавлено: 04 июн 2011, 12:05 |
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Богиня Мудрости |
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Зарегистрирован: 05 июл 2010, 17:53 Сообщения: 1121 Откуда: DC
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Denise_ писал(а): как дать себе пинка? Подождать пока весы покажут 300 фунтов или врач порадует диагнозом "диабет" (и давление).
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nipp
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Заголовок сообщения: Re: Все в gym - 2001-2 Добавлено: 04 июн 2011, 12:15 |
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Богиня Мудрости |
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Зарегистрирован: 05 июл 2010, 17:53 Сообщения: 1121 Откуда: DC
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Если серьёзно, то Dan John про это хорошо написал: Цитата: Free Will and Free Weights
I've said it a million times: There aren't any secrets to training. I would've stood by that, too, until the single greatest moment in the history of strength training and fitness happened to me. I finally discovered the secret. I tend to joke about secrets and gimmicks quite a bit. You know what I'm talking about:
• Lose ten pounds overnight with the diet of the stars! • Instantly increase your arm size! • Use psycho power to get women and money!
True, I bought all these products, and I decided to use them all at once. They all worked! I lost all my money overnight. Whoops. No, I'm talking about a real secret here, the answer to a lot of the crazy issues that plague probably everyone. The funny thing is I'm serious. There's something you have in short supply that you need to cherish. It's the difference between making your fitness, strength and body composition goals and not making those goals. Before I divulge it, let's look at a few examples. New Year's Eve — A drunk walks over to you, spilling a glass of merlot down your arm and on the Persian rug. "You know what?" he slurs. "Tomorrow, I'm laying off the booze, going on Atkins, and I'm going to work out every day, just like I used to. Stopping smoking, too. This is probably one of the last times you'll ever see me smoking." We all know what's going to happen. Most of us (raise your hands, please) have made a New Year's resolution that didn't exactly work out as we planned: "I will eat low carb." "I will work my legs first every workout." "I will stop looking at internet porn." What's strange is resolutions are usually good ideas. Let's be honest, saving the first ten percent of a paycheck, cutting back on carbs or sweets or whatever, exercising more, or being kinder to humanity are all pretty damn good things to try to do. Next example: With my old job I did a lot of prison ministry. Prison is nothing like the movies or television shows, at least in my experience. Sure, there are deep dark bad places in every prison, but most of what I saw wasn't unlike hotels I stayed in while visiting New Jersey and Florida. I sat on a couch once and had a long conversation with a very nice guy without any bars or guards nearby. I later found out he'd killed six people in one night... the last just to see someone squirm. He seemed like a wonderful guy. One of the things people talk about is how buff prisoners are. "Ah, to have the discipline of a multiple offender," you might think. And there it is. That's the insight I had recently. All of the connections finally linked up and in a flash... I got Got what? The secret to success in all of our goals. Don't laugh, don't undervalue, and certainly don't underestimate what I'm about to say: The secret to success is free will. Free will? Sure, call it what you want: self discipline, habits, free agency, or my personal favorite, no other damn choice. Now listen, this isn't a religion discussion, but there's a great story that illuminates the concept. By the way, the story is absolutely true. I verified it. There was a very religious man who lived in a flood plain. One year, a big flood hit and he stood on his porch watching the water go by. A neighbor came by driving a motorboat. "Hop on, friend, and I'll take you to safety!" "No, thanks," the pious man said, "The Good Lord above will save me." Later, while sitting on his roof, the sheriff came by in a rowboat. "Here you go, hop in!" he said. "No, thanks. The Good Lord above will save me," the man replied. As the water rose higher, a helicopter dropped a rope ladder down to him and offered him a lift off the top of his home. "No, thanks. The Good Lord above will save me." He drowned. Standing in line waiting to get into heaven, the Good Lord walked by him. The man said, "Why didn't you save me?" The Good Lord answered: "I sent a motorboat, a rowboat, and a helicopter. What did you want?" This is a true story and I'm standing by it. What's the point? We all know we need to take the bull by the horns, pull ourselves up by our bootstraps, or add any cliché comment you were told as an adolescent to spur you to get off your damn computer chair and walk over to the gym and spend the next hour doing nothing but every exercise you hate. Or, you can keep reading this article and eat some of those chips that are bad for you, but since they come from Hawaii must be pretty good after all, so eat a few more, then sneak over to those websites that have panting college coeds in pasties. Or whatever. Every great motivational speaker from Napoleon Hill to Earl Nightingale to Anthony Robbins will always dedicate a large amount of time and energy to the concept of self-discipline. My college coach, Ralph Maughan, had a saying for his athletes: Make yourself a slave to good habits. And you know, to a group of Division One track and field athletes who all have at least a 3.0 GPA, that's a nice bit of advice, certainly worthy of discussion. Of course, that audience was a little different than maybe most of us deal with during a typical day. So, why does the guy in prison have a better body than you? It's because we have just a little bit of free will. How do I know? People actually research this stuff and then I steal it. Let me take a quick detour for a second and see if I can explain it. I shave daily. I recently changed from shaving cream to shaving gel, but I'm going back to cream. Why? Well, with shaving cream, as you get to the bottom of the can, it splutters and spats and spits cream for about a week before it goes absolutely empty. The first time you get shaving cream spit in your eye, you mentally note, "I need to buy more shaving cream." In that week, you have three or four opportunities to get spat on as a reminder to buy more cream. With gel, you're standing in the shower and you press the button and... nothing. Yesterday, a face full of gel; today you're trying to shave with Dial soap lather and all day your friends comment about your dry, bleeding face. Your coworkers might think you got into another bar fight, like you told them last time. You see, free will is like shaving gel. It seems you have a one-can allotment and it just runs out without warning. Researchers did an interesting test on people: Everyone was asked to do a series of complex tests without any chance of success. They timed how long people would try the task before giving up — like maybe a Rubik's Cube that had been made impossible to finish. When the next group came in, they offered everybody cookies. Those who said, "No thanks, watching my diet," or whatever, would quit the impossible task far earlier than those who said, "What the hell, give me a damn cookie." Why? My friends, you basically have about one can of Free Will. If you use it saying no to cookies, you won't have any left for impossible tasks, quitting smoking, or whatever resolution you picked in a carb-induced haze sometime during the holidays. Sorry. One can. That's why our friend in prison has a better body than you. When your alarm goes off, do you basically get up? Why? Could you miss class if you're a student? Maybe. Well, then, getting up out of your toasty bed will eat up some of your free will. Can you miss work? Sure, but then, you know, something happens, like you miss the Henderson Report and the Dingwinglies fall off the Schimshank and whatever the hell else bad happens to you at work. Do you have kids? Now we're really talking about losing free will, fast and furious. Children will drink every ounce you have before you send them off to school. Trust me, I don't have any personal choice at all! Who makes your meals or chooses what place you'll eat? You. There goes some of that deci-sion-making ability. As decision after decision after decision hits you throughout the week, the reservoir of free will you'll have on hand to spend in the gym begins to fade. When I originally wrote my Four Minutes a Day to Fat Loss article, which you'll read later in the book, a number of people asked me, "If it's so good, why don't you do it every day?" My answer was always clouded: You do it and get back to me. Why couldn't I do it every day? To push myself that hard after a long day of commuting kids back and forth to school, choir and volleyball, while the dog is puking next to the broken toilet, while the lady from the reunion wants to know if I can get there early to help hang crepe paper, after I get the truck back from getting new tires, before I mow the lawn, and while the boss still needs that report... I'm just happy to hide in the gym. Lots of us know these workouts. We go into our gyms and hide. I call it arm day! Our buddy in prison? Does he decide when to go to bed? No. Get up? No. Eat three times a day? No choice. Meals? Not only no choice on what to eat, but usually our friend doesn't have to do anything to prepare the meal. Quiet time? I don't even know what that is. Day after day after day, decisions I take for granted are just not a part of the prisoner's life. What does he have control of anyway? His workouts. That whole can of Free Will — literally bottled up inside of him for days, maybe even weeks, months and years in some cases — can be used for training. And train he does. You decide on ten New Year's resolutions. Here's my unsolicited gambling odds: no chance. If you only make one resolution? Maybe you'll achieve it. It could happen, you know, with the right motivations. Why am I confident you'll fail? My point: You have only so much in the can of Free Will, and most of us waste the bulk of our self-determination, grit, or free choice long before we can muster up the energy to deal with nicotine fits, carb cravings, and the three-minute wait to get on the treadmill. Listen, it's easier to just eat the damn cookie. I know, I've been there. Hi, I'm Dan and I'm the guy who knows carbs are bad for me, but I eat them anyway so leave me alone in my corner to sob. How can we save more of the can of Free Will so we can focus on our workouts or really push that diet? Let's be honest, look at Chris Shugart's Velocity Diet. Just look at it. Pretend for a moment you could do that for a month. Just pretend. I did and immediately came up with about 400 events I couldn't bring a protein drink to, even one mixed with flax seeds.
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Denise_
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Заголовок сообщения: Re: Все в gym - 2001-2 Добавлено: 04 июн 2011, 12:17 |
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Убедительно, спасибо  До 300 мне еще очень далеко, но около 20 паундов за 2 года я таки набрала  Стараюсь на салатах сидеть Наверное с пробежек нужно начать, для разминки  Или тенажер купить, в зал иногда просто нехватка времени не позволяет
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nipp
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Заголовок сообщения: Re: Все в gym - 2001-2 Добавлено: 04 июн 2011, 14:38 |
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Богиня Мудрости |
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Зарегистрирован: 05 июл 2010, 17:53 Сообщения: 1121 Откуда: DC
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Как сказал Dan выше - весь вопрос в free will. Если джим для вас не приоритет, то времени на него никогда не будет. Так эта система работает.
Насчёт салатиков, если +20 фунтов, то явно салатики не помогают. Как насчёт того чтобы привести в порядок диету? Спрашивайте, если нужна помощь.
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AllaR
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Заголовок сообщения: Re: Все в gym - 2001-2 Добавлено: 04 июн 2011, 15:17 |
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Богиня Мудрости |
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Зарегистрирован: 13 апр 2009, 06:56 Сообщения: 12756
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Я только в России в зал постоянно ходила, здесь за 10 лет раз 10 наверное всего, столько отговорок у меня, но если я решаю похудеть, мне зал не нужен. За 10 лет у меня, наверное, около 20 ДВД собралось, гантели на видном месте и улица для прогулок и пробежек. Я всегда летом на 7-10 фунтов худею, правда, зимои набираю, но зал совершенно для похудения не нужен, нужен стимул. Для меня стимул в интернете статьи читать и по дороге на работу подкасты слушать.
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Заголовок сообщения: Re: Все в gym - 2001-2 Добавлено: 04 июн 2011, 15:36 |
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Зарегистрирован: 22 апр 2009, 08:10 Сообщения: 207
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Val писал(а): Так, что если хотите виглядеть подтянутой, то вам надо заказать вот ету книга на амазоне The New Rules of Liftin for WOmen by Lou Schuler!!!! и прочитать ее, сразу поймете, как правилно надо заниматься! Я благодаря Санни и Ниппу открила для себя сайт http://www.bodybuilding.com , там и поняла, что как я ошибалась ранше по поводу тяжолих весов и т.д. Кстати я как раз и хочу, чтоб рельеф бил виден, но как я уже говорила, для етого очен много надо, и то... рельеф будет виден болше, если напряч мишци... а так- красивое подтянутое тело. В обшем я сейчас начала тренировкy по указанной више книге и должна сказать просто СУПЕР! спасибо за совет. Я питаюсь правильно, может конечно не всегда пропорции белков и жиров соблюдены, но ем много овощей и никаких пицц, чипсов, сахара, белого хлеба и мучного, только vhole grain. На тяжести я пока не решилась, да и нет у меня в зале их. Мне бы тренажеры освоить.
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Ami
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Заголовок сообщения: Re: Все в gym - 2001-2 Добавлено: 04 июн 2011, 22:35 |
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Богиня Мудрости |
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Зарегистрирован: 12 янв 2007, 19:06 Сообщения: 15795
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А на меня сегодня ТАК жалобно смотрели )))) Нас пригласили на кар рэйсинг коллеги мужа, там семьи, друзья и народу набралось. Болельщики, наш выиграл! После барбекю делали вся пит кру, мы. Было весело, я даже пиво одно выпила(корс лайт), у меня банан на ужин был в сумке. ))) Гамбургеры, чипсы, сосиски, пиво рекой, претселы, три тортины. ))) Мне СОВСЕМ НЕ ХОТЕЛОСь, какое Г в себя...поела салата до(шпинат, кура, сыр). Но так хотелось треснуть некоторых с их жалобой в глазах ))))) 
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Заголовок сообщения: Re: Все в gym - 2001-2 Добавлено: 04 июн 2011, 23:17 |
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Богиня Мудрости |
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Зарегистрирован: 05 июл 2010, 17:53 Сообщения: 1121 Откуда: DC
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PUSHINKA, whole grains или нет - без особой разницы. И то и то - крахмал (сахар)
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Заголовок сообщения: Re: Все в gym - 2001-2 Добавлено: 04 июн 2011, 23:18 |
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Богиня Мудрости |
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Зарегистрирован: 05 июл 2010, 17:53 Сообщения: 1121 Откуда: DC
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Заголовок сообщения: Re: Все в gym - 2001-2 Добавлено: 05 июн 2011, 07:26 |
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Зарегистрирован: 13 янв 2005, 20:11 Сообщения: 4330 Откуда: W., DC area
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Мне нравится этот парень. Глубокие мысли. Чувствутся хорошенько проанализированный опыт. When the next group came in, they offered everybody cookies. Those who said, "No thanks, watching my diet," or whatever, would quit the impossible task far earlier than those who said, "What the hell, give me a damn cookie." Why? My friends, you basically have about one can of Free Will. If you use it saying no to cookies, you won't have any left for impossible tasks, quitting smoking, or whatever resolution you picked in a carb-induced haze sometime during the holidays. Sorry. One can.
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Кто сейчас на конференции
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Вы не можете начинать темы Вы не можете отвечать на сообщения Вы не можете редактировать свои сообщения Вы не можете удалять свои сообщения Вы не можете добавлять вложения
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