: If vaccines actually do harm, why are they given?

A: First of all, there is no "if." They do harm. It becomes a more difficult question to decide whether they do harm in those people who seem to show no harm. Then you are dealing with the kind of research which should be done, but isn't. Researchers should be probing to discover a kind of map, or flow chart, which shows exactly what vaccines do in the body from the moment they enter. This research has not been done. As to why they are given, we could sit here for two days and discuss all the reasons. As you've said many times, at different layers of the system people have their motives. Money, fear of losing a job, the desire to win brownie points, prestige, awards, promotion, misguided idealism, unthinking habit, and so on. But, at the highest levels of the medical cartel, vaccines are a top priority because they cause a weakening of the immune system. I know that may be hard to accept, but it's true. The medical cartel, at the highest level, is not out to help people, it is out to harm them, to weaken them. To kill them. At one point in my career, I had a long conversation with a man who occupied a high government position in an African nation. He told me that he was well aware of this. He told me that WHO is a front for these depopulation interests. There is an underground, shall we say, in Africa, made up of various officials who are earnestly trying to change the lot of the poor. This network of people knows what is going on. They know that vaccines have been used, and are being used, to destroy their countries, to make them ripe for takeover by globalist powers. I have had the opportunity to speak with several of these people from this network.

Q: Is Thabo Mbeki, the president of South Africa, aware of the situation?

A: I would say he is partially aware. Perhaps he is not utterly convinced, but he is on the way to realizing the whole truth. He already knows that HIV is a hoax. He knows that the AIDS drugs are poisons which destroy the immune system. He also knows that if he speaks out, in any way, about the vaccine issue, he will be branded a lunatic. He has enough trouble after his stand on the AIDS issue.

Q: This network you speak of.

A: It has accumulated a huge amount of information about vaccines. The question is, how is a successful strategy going to be mounted? For these people, that is a difficult issue.

Q: And in the industrialized nations?

A: The medical cartel has a stranglehold, but it is diminishing. Mainly because people have the freedom to question medicines. However, if the choice issue [the right to take or reject any medicine] does not gather steam, these coming mandates about vaccines against biowarefare germs are going to win out. This is an important time.

Q: The furor over the hepatits B vaccine seems one good avenue.

A: I think so, yes. To say that babies must have the vaccine-and then in the next breath, admitting that a person gets hep B from sexual contacts and shared needles — is a ridiculous juxtaposition. Medical authorities try to cover themselves by saying that 20,000 or so children in the US get hep B every year from "unknown causes," and that's why every baby must have the vaccine. I dispute that 20,00 figure and the so-called studies that back it up.

Q: Andrew Wakefield, the British MD who uncovered the link between the MMR vaccine and autism, has just been fired from his job in a London hospital.

A: Yes. Wakefield performed a great service. His correlations between the vaccine and autism are stunning. Perhaps you know that Tony Blair's wife is involved with alternative health. There is the possibility that their child has not been given the MMR. Blair recently side-stepped the question in press interviews, and made it seem that he was simply objecting to invasive questioning of his "personal and family life." In any event, I believe his wife has been muzzled. I think, if given the chance, she would at least say she is sympathetic to all the families who have come forward and stated that their children were severely damaged by the MMR.

Q: British reporters should try to get through to her.

A: They have been trying. But I think she has made a deal with her husband to keep quiet, no matter what. She could do a great deal of good if she breaks her promise. I have been told she is under pressure, and not just from her husband. At the level she occupies, MI6 and British health authorities get into the act. It is thought of as a matter of national security.

Q: Well, it is national security, once you understand the medical cartel.

A: It is global security. The cartel operates in every nation. It zealously guards the sanctity of vaccines. Questioning these vaccines is on the same level as a Vatican bishop questioning the sanctity of the sacrament of the Eucharist in the Catholic Church.

Q: I know that a Hollywood celebrity stating publicly that he will not take a vaccine is committing career suicide.

A: Hollywood is linked very powerfully to the medical cartel. There are several reasons, but one of them is simply that an actor who is famous can draw a huge amount of publicity if he says ANYTHING. In 1992, I was present at your demonstration against the FDA in downtown Los Angeles. One or two actors spoke against the FDA. Since that time, you would be hard pressed to find an actor who has spoken out in any way against the medical cartel.

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Q: Within the National Institutes of Health, what is the mood, what is the basic frame of mind?

A: People are competing for research monies. The last thing they think about is challenging the status quo. They are already in an intramural war for that money. They don't need more trouble. This is a very insulated system. It depends on the idea that, by and large, modern medicine is very successful on every frontier. To admit systemic problems in any area is to cast doubt on the whole enterprise. You might therefore think that NIH is the last place one should think about holding demonstrations. But just the reverse is true. If five thousand people showed up there demanding an accounting of the actual benefits of that research system, demanding to know what real health benefits have been conferred on the public from the billions of wasted dollars funneled to that facility, something might start. A spark might go off. You might get, with further demonstrations, all sorts of fall-out. Researchers — a few — might start leaking information.

Q: A good idea.

A: People in suits standing as close to the buildings as the police will allow. People in business suits, in jogging suits, mothers and babies. Well-off people. Poor people. All sorts of people.

Q: What about the combined destructive power of a number of vaccines given to babies these days?

A: It is a travesty and a crime. There are no real studies of any depth which have been done on that. Again, the assumption is made that vaccines are safe, and therefore any number of vaccines given together are safe as well. But the truth is, vaccines are not safe. Therefore the potential damage increases when you give many of them in a short time period.

Q: Then we have the fall flu season.

A: Yes. As if only in the autumn do these germs float in to the US from Asia. The public swallows that premise. If it happens in April, it is a bad cold. If it happens in October, it is the flu.

Q: Do you regret having worked all those years in the vaccine field?

A: Yes. But after this interview, I'll regret it a little less. And I work in other ways. I give out information to certain people, when I think they will use it well.

Q: What is one thing you want the public to understand?

A: That the burden of proof in establishing the safety and efficacy of vaccines is on the people who manufacture and license them for public use. Just that. The burden of proof is not on you or me. And for proof you need well-designed long-term studies. You need extensive follow-up. You need to interview mothers and pay attention to what mothers say about their babies and what happens to them after vaccination. You need all these things. The things that are not there.

Q: The things that are not there.

A: Yes.

Q: To avoid any confusion, I'd like you to review, once more, the disease problems that vaccines can cause. Which diseases, how that happens.

A: We are basically talking about two potential harmful outcomes. One, the person gets the disease from the vaccine. He gets the disease which the vaccine is supposed to protect him from. Because, some version of the disease is in the vaccine to begin with. Or two, he doesn't get THAT disease, but at some later time, maybe right away, maybe not, he develops another condition which is caused by the vaccine. That condition could be autism, what's called autism, or it could be some other disease like meningitis. He could become mentally disabled.

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Q: Is there any way to compare the relative frequency of these different outcomes?

A: No. Because the follow-up is poor. We can only guess. If you ask, out of a population of a hundred thousand children who get a measles vaccine, how many get the measles, and how many develop other problems from the vaccine, there is a no reliable answer. That is what I'm saying. Vaccines are superstitions. And with superstitions, you don't get facts you can use. You only get stories, most of which are designed to enforce the superstition. But, from many vaccine campaigns, we can piece together a narrative that does reveal some very disturbing things. People have been harmed. The harm is real, and it can be deep and it can mean death. The harm is NOT limited to a few cases, as we have been led to believe.In the US, there are groups of mothers who are testifying about autism and childhood vaccines. They are coming forward and standing up at meetings.They are essentially trying to fill in the gap that has been created by the researchers and doctors who turn their backs on the whole thing.

Q: Let me ask you this. If you took a child in, say, Boston and you raised that child with good nutritious food and he exercised every day and he was loved by his parents, and he didn't get the measles vaccine, what would be his health status compared with the average child in Boston who eats poorly and watches five hours of TV a day and gets the measles vaccine?

A: Of course there are many factors involved, but I would bet on the better health status for the first child. If he gets measles, if he gets it when he is nine, the chances are it will be much lighter than the measles the second child might get. I would bet on the first child every time.

Q: How long did you work with vaccines?

A: A long time. Longer than ten years.

Q: Looking back now, can you recall any good reason to say that vaccines are successful?

A: No, I can't. If I had a child now, the last thing I would allow is vaccination. I would move out of the state if I had to. I would change the family name. I would disappear. With my family. I'm not saying it would come to that. There are ways to sidestep the system with grace, if you know how to act. There are exemptions you can declare, in every state, based on religious and/or philosophic views. But if push came to shove, I would go on the move.

Q: And yet there are children everywhere who do get vaccines and appear to be healthy.

A: The operative word is "appear." What about all the children who can't focus on their studies? What about the children who have tantrums from time to time? What about the children who are not quite in possession of all their mental faculties? I know there are many causes for these things, but vaccines are one cause. I would not take the chance. I see no reason to take the chance. And frankly, I see no reason to allow the government to have the last word. Government medicine is, from my experience, often a contradiction in terms. You get one or the other, but not both.

Q: So we come to the level playing field.

A: Yes. Allow those who want the vaccines to take them. Allow the dissidents to decline to take them. But, as I said earlier, there is no level playing field if the field is strewn with lies. And when babies are involved, you have parents making all the decisions. Those parents need a heavy dose of truth. What about the child I spoke of who died from the DPT shot? What information did his parents act on? I can tell you it was heavily weighted. It was not real information.

Q: Medical PR people, in concert with the press, scare the hell out of parents with dire scenarios about what will happen if their kids don't get shots.

A: They make it seem a crime to refuse the vaccine. They equate it with bad parenting. You fight that with better information. It is always a challenge to buck the authorities. And only you can decide whether to do it. It is every person's responsibility to make up his mind. The medical cartel likes that bet. It is betting that the fear will win.
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Dr. Mark Randall is the pseudonym of a vaccine researcher who worked for many years in the labs of major pharmaceutical houses and the US government's National Institutes of Health. Mark retired during the last decade. He says he was "disgusted with what he discovered about vaccines."

As you know, since the beginning of nomorefakenews, I have been launching an attack against non-scientific and dangerous assertions about the safety and efficacy of vaccines. Mark has been one of my sources. He is a little reluctant to speak out, even under the cover of anonymity, but with the current push to make vaccines mandatory — with penalties like quarantine lurking in the wings — he has decided to break his silence. He lives comfortably in retirement, but like many of my long-time sources, he has developed a conscience about his former work. Mark is well aware of the scope of the medical cartel and its goals of depopulation, mind control, and general debilitation of populations.

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как хорошо сказала, я ж удивилась!

Ето проблема не только нынешнеи Америки, ето сеичас везде так. Вместо того чтобы говорить о здоровом образе жизни, они прививки ишут. Так и во всем-медицине, политике, еде и пр. Поотрывали границы в америке, сеичас мизлс появился. Боюсь сеичас в госпиталях всех ширять начнут. Еше и в очередь встанут идиоты. Амалия открыла банку с червяками здесь. На такие темы надо говорить только в своем кругу.[/quote]




BusyBee подпишись на вот эту девушку, она большая молодец .
Пишет о прививках , много читает ,

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Tucker Carlson: Medical Expert: COVID Vax Killed More Americans Than Vietnam

https://rumble.com/v4j39pi-medical-expert-covid-vax-killed-more-americans-than-vietnam.html

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Попробуйте лечить СПИД грязевыми ваннами. Помочь не поможет, но к земле привыкните.

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+100 Так и есть, очень много спящих, и не только касательно вакцинации.

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Попробуйте лечить СПИД грязевыми ваннами. Помочь не поможет, но к земле привыкните.

Я совсем не в тему сорри: jocker, спасибо что поделились, очень сочувствую и желаю преодолеть как-то последствия этой бяки. Видела рекламу по телевизору здесь, но, как обычно, игнорировала и сразу звук выключала..удивлялась что за страшная Gürtelrose и зачем от нее прививаться. Теперь понимаю зачем, скорее всего, привьюсь.

Джокеру выздоровления!

На самом деле, все эти герпесы лечатся обычной перекисью водорода на раз-два.
Обычный копресс на ночь... у меня прошло за 2 или 3 дня.

Если герпес на губе (то, что называется простудой)- ватной палочкой, смоченной в перекиси, приложить и подержать несколько секунд.
Если начальная стадия, то этого хватит, если нет-то несколько раз... у меня до такого никогда не доходило.

Мама лечила эту же проблему, сделав кашицу из соды. Тоже быстро прошло.

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«Русскому человеку лучше всего удаётся невозможное!»
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Только нашей земли не разделит
На потеху себе супостат:
Богородица белый расстелет
Над скорбями великими плат».

Анна Ахматова

Ой, мне кажется этот вирус содой и перекисью не вылечишь. Сколько знаю людей-боли просто ужасающие. У Джoкера совсем не "простуда" была.

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People who project negativity typically have low self-esteem. They feel badly about themselves, and their negativity is simply a reflection of those feelings.

Hendrie Weisinger

Так у герпеса "прописка" в нашем организме.
Активизируется, когда иммунитет ослабевает.
Если я правильно поняла, в Джокера была побочка после гриппа.
А грипп именно побочками и страшен. Где тонко, там и рвется.
А в ее случае целый "букет" выплыл (имею ввиду область поражения).

Я не к тому, что не надо делать прививки.
Я к тому, что это очень индивидуально.
Я, например, знаю свой слабый иммунитет и, как следствие, необязательные прививки для меня скорее вред, чем польза.
А кому то, наоборот, помогает.
Все мы разные

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«Русскому человеку лучше всего удаётся невозможное!»
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Только нашей земли не разделит
На потеху себе супостат:
Богородица белый расстелет
Над скорбями великими плат».

Анна Ахматова

Лилия
Спасибо за пожелания. Бяку преодолела 6 лет тому назад
Шрамы и убитый нерв - на всю жизнь и уже привыкла.
Кстати! Я же помню что вы в Россию собирались и с зоопарком. И помню про безбожно дорогое такси. И спасибо огромное за советы по Европе. Помогло.
К чему это я. Как вариант, вам можно автобусом по Германии. Дешевле и вполне себе комфорт. Я покупала билеты на два соседних места и каталась королевой. И поспать и поесть. А вам будет где переноски поставить с четвероногими.
Ещё попутку брала. Через бла бла кар. Только положительные впечатления.
И очень даже по карману.
Как вариант вам. И сорри за оффтоп.

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Да, у Джокера совсем не "простуда" была
И никаких кашицу и перекись приложить

Обычный герпес на губе и шинглс это две большие разницы.
Шинглс это ВЕТРЯНКА по второму кругу. А герпес на губе это герпес на губе.

И если заболели шинглс (а шанс заболеть - у каждого третьего, вирус в каждом из нас сидит), бегом к врачу за антивирусным. Лекарство эффективно только в течение 72 часов от начала заболевания и предотвращает побочки в виде параличей и фантомных болей на года. Конечно есть шанс что переболеете легко и без антивирусных. Но если не повезет и переболеете тяжело? И на лице?
Вот картинки из интернета, попугать.

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У второй девушки на фото есть все шансы потерять зрение

I'm hoping your physician notified you of this, but you appear to have what is called Hutchinson sign which is when shingles involves the tip of your nose. This is signifies a nerve that is a long the same distribution as your eye is involved. You should see an opthalmologist as soon as possible.

From my quick search to better explain the risks: "Hutchinson sign indicates a 3.4-fold increase in the risk of developing ocular inflammation and a 4-fold increase in the risk of developing corneal denervation

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Таких страшных герпесов я никогда не видела. А работала я всегда в больших госпиталях. Ето какие то екстремальные случаи. Если слегда на губе выскочило то маслом чаиного дерева слегка помазать, наутро проидет.

Я думаю что такое страшное возникает на очень ослабленном организме.
Амалия, я смотрела Баттачария, профессор из МИТ, Доктора Кембела, все они говорят одно и тоже. Я для себя решила что никаких прививок мне лично не надо. Сеичас все будет на основе мрна, поетму- спасибо не надо.

Мне тоже кажется, что не может быть, что такое бывает прямо-таки у трети всего населения - тогда мед. работники уж точно видели бы это постоянно. Даже тут на этом форуме они есть, и ни разу эта тема не поднималась за 20 лет. Следовательно, шансы заболеть этой фигнёй сильно преувеличены рекламой.

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Читать написанное транслитом - все равно, что читать написанное говном на стене: вроде все понятно, но все равно неприятно! :-)